tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12959942.post115859793036716252..comments2023-07-08T09:08:14.478-04:00Comments on Divinity is in the Details: Response to JTA article on NHC/Everett's/the havurah movementZThttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00389399563327644386noreply@blogger.comBlogger1125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12959942.post-1158611125497512362006-09-18T16:25:00.000-04:002006-09-18T16:25:00.000-04:00I am most aware of the 20-something scene cause it...<I>I am most aware of the 20-something scene cause its where i spend the most time, but it doesn't seem intuitive to me that the oft-repeated claim, that the movement is split into the middle-aged camp and the young camp, is accurate.</I><BR/><BR/>It is empirically accurate in describing the demographics at this year's Institute. With the ages of participants sorted by decade, people in their 20s were the largest group, followed by people in their 50s. Yes, new minyanim/havurot have started continuously over the last 40 years, but there has been a particularly large wave in the last 5 years.<BR/><BR/><I>Age aside, Ben and Elizabeth are artful and articulate ambassadors and advocates for the movement. It was a great move to put such talented and effective leaders in charge.</I><BR/><BR/>Aw shucks. :)<BR/><BR/><I>I think it would be fairer to say that they are the first of a new generation as the folks who organized it originally weren't much older.</I><BR/><BR/>Yeah, it should have said "first time it was headed by two people born after 1970."<BR/><BR/><I>The challenge at this point would seem to me to be how the fellowship can be expanded to 36 or so and how it can attract a wide array of yidden including the folks at some of the larger minyanim who haven't been heavily involved in NHC.</I><BR/><BR/>$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$<BR/><BR/><I>The increase in day-school education is also significant.</I><BR/><BR/>Elizabeth and I both went to public school all the way through. Among the people my age who have become leaders in the NHC, there isn't a particularly high incidence of day-school education.<BR/><BR/><I>I don't particularly see my choice to mix these two as flouting convention. I am a german jew and our practice is to wear tzitzit tucked in as i think it has been for hundreds of years. kippah on the other hand i view primarily as a statement of identity politics, which i make selectively as appropriate. </I><BR/><BR/>Also, even from a formalistic perspective, it's not such a contradiction -- tzitzit are a mitzvah d'oraita, whereas kipah is a minhag.<BR/><BR/><I>I share the author's optimism and don't have enough info to weigh in on Deborah Cash's claim that there is a major difference in the approaches of the 80s cohort and present cohort.</I><BR/><BR/>The davening styles are definitely different. This is sometimes a source of tension. However, I think it's important to look past the davening styles and see our commonalities (rather than seeing the differences and concluding that our minyanim have nothing in common with the havurah movement).BZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18242965196421853025noreply@blogger.com